devotional repost

Category: philosophy/religion topics

Post 1 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 14:35:27

God's people will not only have all their needs met, but many will PROSPER even as He judges our nation through the economy!!! I want to give you a word
of great encouragement today. As God judges this nation through the economy, as more and more people lose their jobs, as more and more people face financial
difficulties, I want you to know that the Lord will meet your every need. Not only that. God is going to PROSPER many of His children even in the midst
of the economic turmoil.

We read about the judgment of God being poured out on the children of Israel for their sin and rebellion. However, even in captivity, even in the wilderness,
God not only provided for their every need, but many prospered! My word for you today is that GOD IS GOING TO MEET YOUR EVERY NEED THROUGH THIS ECONOMIC
CRISIS, AND MANY WILL PROSPER LIKE THEY NEVER DREAMED POSSIBLE!!!

Take a few moments right now and encourage yourself with these passages from God's Word.

"God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble." Psalms 46:1

"You let men ride over our heads; we went through fire and water, but you brought us to a place of abundance.." Psalms 66:12

"For every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills." Psalms 50:10

"Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than
they?" Matthew 6:26

"The LORD will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the LORD your God that I give you this day and carefully follow
them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom." Deuteronomy 28:13

"So I gave you a land on which you did not toil and cities you did not build; and you live in them and eat from vineyards and olive groves that you did
not plant." Joshua 24:13

"If they obey and serve him, they will spend the rest of their days in prosperity and their years in contentment." Job 36:11

The promises in God's Word are true and they are for you and me. Is God going to judge this nation? Yes! I believe His judgment has started. Can we avoid
feeling His full wrath and punishment for our sin and rebellion? Yes! I know in my heart that if we will repent, turn our hearts back to God and follow
Him, we can escape the full fury of His wrath and punishment. I also know that if we don't turn back to God, we will continue to see his judgment unleashed
on our nation.

For those who God has protected so far, praise Him each day, serve Him each day, follow Him each day, and trust Him each day to guide you through this time.
God always has key people He has set aside to play a special role in the midst of His judgment. Through Noah He preserved mankind. Through Moses He led
His people out of captivity. Through Joseph His people survived the great famine in the land. All throughout human history, God has had key people, most
we will never know their names, who He has strategically used even as He poured out His wrath and judgment.

The Bible says it rains on the just and the unjust. The Bible also clearly teaches that even the faithful remnant suffers along with everyone else when
God sends His judgment. However, for the people of God, we have the promises of God that even in the midst of His judgment He will provide for our every
need, and many examples of God's people who prospered. Even during His judgment, we can know His peace, joy, and abundance!!!

For many who have and will lose jobs, God will give you new and better jobs. For many who have seen their businesses close, God will give you wisdom and
favor to start new and better businesses. If you have been affected by the current economic crisis, rather than look at your situation with despair, look
at it with hope, knowing that God has promised to meet your every need. What you are going through is an OPPORTUNITY to trust God and allow Him to not
only provide for your needs, but show you new paths to prosperity- spiritually and economically!

My word for you today is to quit looking back, and look ahead. Stop worrying about the season that was, and start to prepare for the season to come. Nobody
likes change, but change is part of this life. Now is the time to trust the Lord and let Him gudie you into this new season of your life. He loves you
and cares about you and knows your every need. He wants to bless you above and beyond anything you ever imagined or thought possible. The key is for you
to trust Him and move forward so that God can open those new doors, show you those new paths.

I love you and care about you so much. For those who God has spared thus far during the economic crisis, know how blessed you are and that God is blessing
you so that He can use you to be a blessing to others during this critical time. The Lord always has key people He has protected to insure His work continues,
and now is the time to realize that God can really use your life during this time of judgment. God's people understand their blessings are from above,
and they have been blessed to be a blessing to others!

I know many people are struggling right now due to the economy. I want you to know that I am praying for you. God's promises are true and He will never
leave you nor forsake you and will meet every need. Not just meet your needs, but He can prosper you as well. I am praying today that you will not be discouraged
by your circumstances, but ENCOURAGED by them. Even though there may be many unknowns to you, there are no unknowns to God. He is still on His throne,
still in control, and He loves you. He is not going to fail you.

The key now is to exercise your faith like never before. Be like Abraham and trust Him and His promises. Walk by faith and not by sight. Be faithful each
day to serve and follow Him. As you do, the Lord will not only provide, but open wonderful new doors and take you down incredible new paths. Even as He
pours out His judgment on this nation for our sins and wickedness, God is going to meet your every need, and in many cases, even prosper you in ways you
could never have dreamed of!!!

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Post 2 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 15:06:29

this should be on the religion board, not the rant board.

Post 3 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 15:23:40

But I'm glad it is because I'm going to rant about it:
While it is within your constitutional right to jam your religion down my throat, I wish you wouldn't. Thank you.

Post 4 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 15:38:58

Same here. It's a really good way to make an enemy of me.

Post 5 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 16:17:45

I agree. So....you're ranting about religion then?

Post 6 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 18:16:12

agree with all the posts so far. if you're gonna post it at all, post it in the right board. oh... while you're at it, think about some worthwhile posts that you could contribute to the boards.

Post 7 by someone else (Zone BBS Addict) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 18:24:11

I agree with all the posts so far ... I don't really get what you're ranting about.

Post 8 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 19:24:51

The passages quoted in the op are not from God's word. God doesn't write his guidance. He guides us through direct communication if we let him.

Post 9 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 19:28:09

So, if God provides for all his people, what's wrong with RCF that he can't seem to get anywhere in life? Maybe his faith isn't strong enough? Just a thought. If the highpoint of being one of God's people is being reduced to a puddle of sobbing helpless confusion, as represented by RCF, , I think I'll pass. Thankya muches.

Post 10 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:01:07

I'll pass too; I'm content living my life as I see fit, without god...and margorp, very eloquently said. I couldn't agree more...and, to the original poster, this is certainly a great way to make lots of enemies.

Post 11 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:12:18

i don't mind having allot of enmies it i know it is not me you are after and pursacuting it is god.

Post 12 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:19:18

You know, people can have entirely different beliefs and views from you and still believe in God. And anyway you posted in the wrong board.

Post 13 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:30:48

wthose people who don't obey the bible will be paying for it on judgement day.
There is allot of things that are wrong with the world.
The one hing for example is marriage between two women is not right. It says right in the bible that marriage is between one man and one woman. Marriage has been designed to be between one man one woman.

Those people who are having kids are totally like having kids before marriage. sex outside of marriage is a big no no.

Those who are doing idaulitry is wrong because god says so.

it is like same sex marriages are so wrong. it is fine to be best friends with somebody but same sex couples are totally wrong.

Post 14 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:36:15

I'd say you will never have to worry about sex, in marriage or out of it. your parrents will never let you get married, so...

Post 15 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:40:45

i just decided today that I will change my attitude towards things and find the things i need for life. I full heartily serve god and tell people the truth streight from his word and just well you know do what needs to be done.

Post 16 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:41:22

I'm with you on the adultery but as far as the same sex issue of marriage I firmly disagree and am proud of it, even though I myself am straight. But that's another topic entirely. But as far as I'm concerned you yourself are sinning by not respecting the views and beliefs of other people. But I'll stop right there since I realize there'll be no convincing you...about anything.

Post 17 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:45:10

agreed with BryanP's last post.

Post 18 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:54:51

the bible is more than just a book. it is gods word to believers. and it outlines things that help me and other believers grow and be more like christ.
The bible is the word of god. no other book can tell you how to live and things. no other book can give words of wisdom


and bible says marriage is between one man one woman.

just like killing of babies is totally wrong.

Post 19 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:58:28

Is that where you learned to call us fuckers, and how you learned to threaten to spread rumors about us?

Post 20 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 20:58:36

It's folks like you, RCF, that make me realize why I'm generally against organized religion. And why aren't those priests in the Catholic church who abused children physically and sexually being punished?

Post 21 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 21:03:24

exactly. God's got people like RCF working for him. He doesn't need us, I'm sure. Besides, I could never do this as well as RCF does.

Post 22 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 21:09:19

i don't agree with orginized religion but it is not about religion it is about god.
allot of churches this day and age are just about money but there are a few that do serve god. after all the church is not the building it is the body of christ

Post 23 by snowflower (Zone BBS Addict) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 21:38:13

So if I don't attend church I don't believe in God? I do believe in God but people like you take it too far! I know the Bible and it was written at a time when things were not like they are these days. If you ask me it should be revised and God loves everyone even homosexuals because he does not hate...

Post 24 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 21:48:16

RCF said, "I don't agree with organized religion, but it's not about religion, it's about god". to that I say, in your eyes, maybe. thanks for the amusement you're providing, though!!

Post 25 by Miss M (move over school!) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 22:22:29

Ahem. Allow me to clear my throat.

Words words words something about christianity more words with several of them misspelled and then something that makes me sound smarter than the last 3 posters above me a few more words and finally something that makes it seem like I've ended my piece with an epic beatdown but really someone's going to follow this same template after me so it's not actually going to stop.

Post 26 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Tuesday, 08-Jun-2010 23:19:33

Ok so if the bible is the word of God, then the word of God must change every few centuries since there are multiple versions. But each to his or her own I suppose, just as long as they leave the rest of us alone. But I'm greatful for the laughs this topic, and particular RCF's posts, have thus far provided.

Post 27 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 0:08:17

Rcf:
Does your god instruct you to act like a complete moron? Does he want you to foam at the mouth, having your words shot down like fighter jets? I try to be tolerant but I can't stand this foolishness. Sounds like you think that you are some god...and that is dangerous.

Post 28 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 0:11:49

I sure wouldn't want to be a god. That would imply having some sort of power. I don't think I want power.

Post 29 by Striker (Consider your self warned, i'm creative and offensive like handicap porn.) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 0:25:37

You sir, represent and embody all the qualities of what is known as being a sheeple. You blindly, thoughtlessly, repost things you don't seem to clearly understand while further reinterpreting the "word of god" to suit your needes and opinions of what it should be. On some levels, you could claim you are bastardizeing what you claim to stand for. Nice job, black sheep of the flock. Then again, you're not the first, nore will you be the last to blindly preach something you don't even truely seem to understand. Its clear you conflict with the values you claim to uphold with out even realizeing it. Look in the mirror, you're a fool hideing in the shell of a marder and you're so halariously Hypocritical.
Note, i'm not spasificly religious, Just attacking him based on my interpretations of his actions and the text provided. As well as my knoledge (such as it is) of christianity and its different branches.

Post 30 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 1:16:22

Not everyone is Christian. Saying that *you believe* that marriage between two women is wrong is one thing. Stating it as a fact, without any logical reasons and appealing to athority, in this case, The Bible, is not. Same with sex before marriage. And I'm a proud and happy Hellenic Polytheist. My Gods on't think it's wrong. As a matter of fact, They're very happy that I worship Them. It's sad that there are people who honestly believe as you do. They make all Christians look bad. BryanP22: Good point about the Catholic priests. Even their pope knew about it and just moved them around. Of course, there are Catholics who are disgusted by this, and rightfully so, but those at the top have alot of answering to do to their god when they die. rollercoasterfan: I actually agree with you about churches and money and that's very sad. If you serve a religion, your main goal should be to help the people by enriching their lives with spiritually, in whatever is appropriate to your faith. It shouldn't be merely to get wealthy off of people's faith. BryanP22: Excellent point about how The Bible has changed. There are several books that aren't even in the main Bible because they showed things that those choosing which books to follow didn't want the people to know, things that contraidicted each other and that went against their values. If God really wrote it, who are mortals to pick and choose, and if they can, how do they know what really comes from God and what's made up. There were several things that were taken as sacred but that were later found to be forgeries etc. An let's not forget all the killing that went on between the early sects of Christians, let alone how the conversions of the pagans took place. I'd love power, but not to be a god. The minute we think ourselves above The Gods is the minute we fall, and hard too!

Post 31 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 1:52:35

Exactly. My biggest probpel with religion and especially CHristianity is that its followers, particularly those in authority in those churches, is that they can't just live and let live. In other words, they don't practice what they preatch. And the sad part is that they don't see it.

Post 32 by SilverLightning (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 5:52:38

the bible also says that its ok to sell your daughter into slavery and stone disobedient children to death. Oddly enough, I don't see a lot of christians following those verses. even though its god's word. so you want to prove you've got religious and christian balls, sel your daughter into slavery, and lets see you pick up a stone. You want to say that something is "just wrong" because your precious little book says so, then I bid 1000 dollars on your daughter. Lets go, show us what your made of, show us how deep that faith in the bible goes.
Oh wait, that's right, I forgot, the bible is only sometimes the word of god. Like when it fits your warped and twisted sense of hypocritical right and wrong. When it helps you, its gods word, when it doesn't, its a highly inaccurate load of printed lies that's is completely open for interpretation. And why, because christianity and religion no longer serve the purpose that they were designed for. the lies no longer serve the greater good that they started. People are starting to not need religion anymore, and so the religions of the world are whining like little kids who don't get ice cream.
Now shut the fuck up and go to the religion board where I can sit back and chuckle at your theological idiocy.

Post 33 by Leafs Fan (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 7:54:39

Be faithful and send me $5000 while you're at it?

Post 34 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 8:38:38

So if God told you to jump off a cliffe, you'd do it because the bible said so? Not saying it does, but hypothetically, if it did...

I'm genuinely amused. I'm sure this will make a great joke of an LJ entry today.

Post 35 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 9:53:27

Interesting post in 34 regarding,
is there anywhere in the Bible where mention is made
telling anyone to jump off a cliffe...??

In the book of Matthew I find that mention is made of making request that one
jump from a pinnacle of the temple,
{o.k. so it's not a cliffe, still a high up point to jump from}

Only thing is that according to scripture it is Satan
making this request and not God.
Satan rather is making this request of Jesus to do.


Matthew Chapter 4:
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Post 36 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 10:20:39

What saddens me is the hostility and hatred that so many people have for religion, in general, today. I don't think that people are finding out that they no longer need religion. While there will always be atheists and other nonreligious people in the world, I think that many are turning to alternative faiths, the old ones that are being revived as well as the newer ones. Either way, the world is definitely changing. Thankfully, so has my grammar and spelling this morning. My last entry was a mess.

Post 37 by Brooke (I just keep on posting!) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 12:41:48

Quote:
i don't mind having allot of enmies it i know it is not me you are after and pursacuting it is god.

No, you're confused; it's really you I don't like. Does that mean your God is going to tell you to call me a baster again? Lol

Post 38 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 13:22:05

these posts have been enriching to me.
The reason I make a stand for things is because that is what christians are taught to do.
God wants christians not only to sit with in their own churches but god wants christians to live the christian life.

I made a vow not to swear anymore since yesterday.
God does not like valger language or glutney and people to be selfish at all.

Christians need to stand up for their faith. I don't care if i get made fun of but i don't care if i get called a bible thumper because i am glad to be one.
The bible does not say to cell people into slavery and kill each other because the scripture says not to kill each other.

The bible has not changed at all. it is just made easier to understand for some people.
God does not change his words

Post 39 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 13:53:52

If it doesn't say to kill people, can you please explain the crusades and if it hasn't changed, why aren't all the books included in it i.e. the gnostic texts etc? Check
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/index.htm
for more on those. And what about the breaking apart of the Eastern and Western churches?

Post 40 by Striker (Consider your self warned, i'm creative and offensive like handicap porn.) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 14:05:18

From a position of ignurence you speak, oh great RCF...
And I don't have any anamosity for religion, I just get real sick of people completely twisting and misusing something they claim to hold more sacred than anything else. I'm not christian, I really don't know how to explain what I believe. But, my grevence listed above applies to worshipers of nearly all faiths so...

Post 41 by someone else (Zone BBS Addict) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 14:46:54

Omg, this is soooooo amusing to read!!!!!! You're entitled to your op, but don't try to shove it down people's throats! :(
And I suggest you take a spelling lesson. Vulgar is spelled v u l g a r, not v a l g e r!
The only thing I agree with you about is that adultery is wrong. Btw, why do you think same sex marriage is so wrong??????

Post 42 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 14:56:41

I'm all for religion, but I really don't appreciate being told I'm wrong because I don't follow what you do. And you still haven't told us why you posted this on the rant board, by the way.

Tiffanitsa, thank you for saying exactly what popped into my head when I read the post about the bible saying it's wrong to kill each other.

Post 43 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 15:28:45

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) recently said that she believes she
must pursue public policies "in keeping with the values" of Jesus Christ,
"The Word made Flesh" At a May 6 Catholic Community Conference on Capitol
Hill, the speaker said: "They ask me all the time, 'What is your favorite
this? What is your favorite that? What is your favorite that?' And one time,
'What is your favorite word?' And I said, 'My favorite word? That is really
easy. My favorite word is the Word, is the Word. And that is everything. It
says it all for us. And you know the biblical reference, you know the Gospel
reference of the Word."

I have a message for House Speaker Pelosi. Supporting the legalized slaughter of innocent babies is NOT "in keeping with the values of Jesus Christ!"
Supporting the perversion of God's Holy Institution of Marriage by same-sex couples is NOT "in keeping with the values of Jesus Christ!" Supporting the
radical homosexual agenda is NOT "in keeping with the values of Jesus Christ!" Supporting the enemies of Israel is NOT "in keeping with the values of Jesus
Christ!" As a matter of fact, there is not one, NOT ONE spiritual issue of our day that you support that is "in keeping with the values of Jesus Christ!"

Speaker Pelosi can state how important "the Word" is, a reference to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, but her actions state something quite different.
Jesus would not supporting killing babies, or same-sex marriage, or the radical homosexual agenda, or those enemies of Israel who want to see God's chosen
people wiped off the face of this earth. She makes a mockery of Jesus in even saying such a thing.
The prophet Isaiah said it so well in the anchor verse for today. "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their
hearts are far from me." It is not what you say that makes you Godly, it is what you do! Please don't get me wrong. I am not saying that we should not
give God all of the glory, honor, and praise that He deserves. WE MUST! But God is more interested in how we honor Him with our lives.

The greatest impact that we can have on someone we are close to is not by what we say, but how we live our life. Our most powerful testimony is not our
words, but our actions. The greatest impact that you can have on unsaved family members, friends, those that you may see at school or work, is not what
you will say to them about Jesus, but how you show them Jesus in YOUR day to day life.

I love you and care about you so much. Please join me in praying for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. I pray today for her salvation. Nobody that is truly
saved could ever support everything our Lord spoke against. Like many in ALL churches, not just the Roman Catholic Church, she has bought into the lie
that being "good" will get you to Heaven.

Sadly, that is the message people get at these seeker/purpose driven/emerging churches, as well as many institutionalized denominational churches where
they never hear about sin or receive invitation to accept Christ as their Savior by faith. Instead, they are fed a feel good, motivational message that
gives them the false sense of security that as long as they "try hard" and are "good," they will make it to Heaven.

THAT IS A DAMNABLE LIE FROM SATAN LEADING THE SOULS OF COUNTLESS MILLIONS TO THE ETERNAL FLAMES OF HELL!!!

It today you are not certain of your salvation, or have never made the conscious decision to accept Jesus Christ into your heart and life by faith, take
a few minutes and go to the following link. Read the words, watch the short video, and pray the prayer so that you will never have to wonder or worry
again about your eternal home. Also, please share this link with someone you know who is not saved.

Salvation link:
http://www.liveprayer.com/plan.cfm

I pray today that just because someone uses the name "God", or "Jesus", or "Christian", that you just don't automatically accept all that they say and do.
You can't be "of God" and then blatantly live in 100% opposition to God or His Word. The Bible iis our final authority in all matters, the ABSOLUTE TRUTH
that we base our very lives on.

So people like Speaker Pelosi can invoke the name of Jesus, pray all they want, but that does NOT make what they are doing "of God." God is not impressed
with our words, but our actions. My question to you today is this: "Do you honor God with your lips or with your life?"

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,.
Bill Keller

If I can help you in any way you can contact me through my personal email at:
bkeller@liveprayer.com

Post 44 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 15:49:11

Wow, RCF, you would do well to understand what you've just posted here. Even if you've decided not to sware and use bad language anymore, it goes much deeper than that. Telling us that we need to grow up, threatening to spread rumors about us, calling us pieces of junk, saying we're worthless... All these things are not in keeping with your message about God and his love. Just remember this. It's the church that rejected you. you couldn't go to the confrance. They said it was because of grooves in the floor? Do you really believe that? God helps those who help themselves. speaking of that, how are you doing on your cane travel? Have you begun trying not to have your dad lead you everywhere now? It's not my intent to make fun of you. My point is simply that you have to start somewhere, and this would be a great beginning. Lastly, do you now believe that simply posting these religious topics will redeem you? stop for a moment and reflect on how you live your life. What do you think?

Post 45 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 16:02:47

anthany and others

I appologize for all i have done towards you I cencearly deeply mean it. I am sorry for for all you consider wrong and things.

I have taken the only computer course that ccb offers and it was to basic so it is not like i am not doing anything at all.

For those who assume i am not doing anything are saying wrong because i been trying.
I just need to run into the right web sites or people that will give me the skills i need.


My area truly does not have an orientation and mobility instructor.

the thing is services are very limited here. yes it might be bit better than places like isreal and the third world countries but canada does not have the stuff the us has. canada does not have training centers the canadain provinces don't have conventions like you guys in the us have and things

Post 46 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 16:05:03

if you don't believe me ask few canadians.

Post 47 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 16:16:23

That's the deal though. I know several Canadians, and they've done ok for themselves. You've berated us because we didn't give you the help you needed, but think of this. Most of us are not in Canada, so of course, we have no need of the training centers in Canada, so we would have to do a bit of research ourselves, and from the way you've treated us, you haven't exactly given us much food for motovation. Just the other day, someone posted the websites for the training centers, which you obviously totally ignored. And something else you've never addressed... Remember when you wanted the blogger, and we told you about wordpress? Your response was that you didn't want to have to click on a link. If you're too lazy to press the enter key on your keyboard, how is that our fault?

Post 48 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 16:23:35

i will except the training centers web sites now

Post 49 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 16:41:37

Then look back in the thread. And answer the question of why you posted this thread in the rant board and not in the religion board as people have been asking.

Post 50 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 16:48:58

well i posted here by mistake

Post 51 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 16:59:06

The website is:
www.cnib.ca
and I put that on it's own line, so all you have to do is copy and paste it in to your browser. If I knew how to make a clickable link, I would do it. I keep meaning to learn how to do that, but... Anyway, if you don't want the website:
Contact Us
National Office

Phone:
1-800-563-2642

Fax:
416-480-7700

Mail:
CNIB National Office
1929 Bayview Avenue
Toronto, ON M4G 3E8

Email:
info@cnib.ca
To be more specific, I need to know where you live, but if you click on the contact us link, there's a section on local offices, so just click the area that applies to you. Hope this helps.

Post 52 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 17:30:14

Yeah. I've got a few Canadian friends, mostly on here, who seem to have done fairly well for themselves.

Post 53 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 17:32:18

The CNIB link from Anthony

Post 54 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 17:55:04

Woohoo! Thanks. Haven't mastered that one yet. This is where I really need a braille display. It's hard for me to actually learn html just from listening and using the arrow keys. I need to see it.

Post 55 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 19:33:08

You say that your god loves all and then go on to basically describe all those whom he hates, who are bad etc. And as for Jesus, like Sokrates, he never wrote anything. All anyone has is the writings of His deciples, who were mortals, and most get a slanted version that was handpicked, centuries later, again by mortals to serve their own political ends. They even did that in my religion, Hellenic Polytheism. How can anyone truly say that they know Jesus based only on a book? If they're supposed to let Him into their hearts and minds, what if He shows them, that, for example, He's fine with them being gay, so long as they do good things and honour Him in their thoughts and actions? If He's a god, He's entitled to love whomever he wants, even if He said those things in the past... If we as mortals can change our minds, surely, The Gods have that ability. Many Christians talk about conversion. Well, what if a gay person converts to Christianity? Is it any less significant than anyone else converting? Should they be shunned simply because of whom they love? Doesn't Christianity teach people to love one another? As for my eternal home, I'll leave that for Zeus and Hermes to decide, but hopefully, it'll be a good place. As for you, I hope that you find a better way to receive self-confidence. You need to love yourself first before you can love anyone, including the divine. They can't be expected to do everything for you, and while religion is certainly a healer, it can't be relied upon as the only means of self-discovery, knowledge and comfort.

Post 56 by someone else (Zone BBS Addict) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 19:41:02

Anthony:
I could teach you html if you like? I don't know tables but I know how to do all the basic things.

Post 57 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 19:53:55

hjesus does not hate people he may not hate the person but he is the things that people do greeve him.

all people will have to stand before him on the judgement day.

Post 58 by snowflower (Zone BBS Addict) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 22:46:30

How do you know what Jesus likes? Did he tell you personally?
I read your profile and you are 23? Why don't you already have daily living skills? I lost my sight about 10 years ago and very independant because I didn't wait around for others to do everything for me. If people give you answers when you need help, take it!

If you recently lost your sight I can see if you need help but I don't know all your circumstances so all I can say is you can choose to sink or swim!

Post 59 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 22:55:37

lol I was thinking the same thing about Jesus telling him and anyone else who claims to absolutely know what He wants from them.

Post 60 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Wednesday, 09-Jun-2010 23:24:55

rcf:
You say horrible things one minute, and apologize the next. You remind me of a serial killer type person. Sounds like you are fighting it though.

Post 61 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 8:47:59

A "tongue-twister" type of thinking of scriptures follows.
Well, in my personal thots that is and I like that quality
in that it promotes thinking and giving consideration on
a deeper level of thinking...
a thinking through type of process

In this passage of Romans,
it tells of that when a person chooses to be a christian
that it does not mean that there is not a war or more to say,
conflicts that goes on within the person and is
thusly expressed in outwardly conduct...

In some respects I suppose this is where Faith takes hold.
Faith to believe that while people judge others by outward appearance
yet still it is the heart, the spirit, the soul of a person
that the Lord considers. {1 Samuel 16:7}



Romans chapter 7:
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Post 62 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 9:46:45

RCF, sorry, but being Canadian is no excuse for not having the skills. There was no help in my area either. I used to ask my mom to teach me these things when I was a kid, and when I got older, we had a daily living instructor come to my house from Vancouver, BC. It was difficult to get her there, but the point is, it's possible if you really want it to be. As far as mobility instructors are concerned, they're in every province, and they should be able to come to you. I don't know how many are in your area, but there are also programs you can go to. I believe you're still young enough for Score Camp, although I'm not entirely sure. Anyway, point made, I hope.

As far as God is concerned, I've already said everything I wanted to in earlier posts, so I just hope the staff move this to the Religion topics board soon.

Post 63 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 11:00:18

Yeah, talk about a tongue twister! Could you imagine someone trying that in court? I comitted this crime because evil is in me. I'm really good but I couldn't help myself... It wasn't me but sin! lol

Post 64 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 11:13:41

Psalms 100:2
...serve the Lord with gladness...

:-)

Post 65 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 11:37:10

in response to Grace's posts, the point is not what the bible does or doesn't say...it's that this is a total waste of space, as well as the fact people have continuously tried helping RCF but he refuses to accept it. nuff said...

Post 66 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 12:11:59

I disagree with post #65...

It has already been mentioned that this Post was placed under
the wrong Board by mistake...
That it should have been placed under say, "religion"
...or more so perhaps, "Safe Haven"
both of which responses may be made from
a Biblical point of view

...also post #48 does show that RCF has had some
change in his thinking and rather is willing to accept the offered help.

Post 67 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 14:34:41

Staff, don't move this post because the majority of us are ranting. :)

Post 68 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 16:02:13

I completely agree with Chelsea. Having said that, since this is on the rant board, for now at least, why not take advantage of it.

Post 69 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 18:04:35

exactly; cheap entertainment, if you will.

Post 70 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 20:53:08

In post 9, Da wrote:

Post 71 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 21:36:15

Beautifully written and excellent points. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Post 72 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 21:55:16

Ok, here's my take on it. Fighter, I know you don't like the guy, but lighten up a little bit, my friend. As for RCF, you say you believe in God and all these things, and yet you still call peopl total morons and then apologize for that afterword. And as for Canada not giving you help, I think you're full of it on that. As Jessica previously said, there is help, and I think you should accept it, rather than ignore it. You're 23 years old and you really need to grow up. I've been blind my whole life and I don't use my country as an excuse for not getting help. Jessica said there's lots of help there in Canada, so go after it and don't sit on your ass and think you'll get everything on a silver platter because that's not going to happen. That was not meant to be mean, but go after your help and don't sit there. If you do, people will think you're full of bull crap and you're retarded.

Post 73 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 22:39:23

hi i have made bit of progress i am quite happy to say.
I called the cnib to check into some things and still working on just checking in at this point and time.
The one program called CUP is for colleege and university students.
I was talking to the lady today about it and stuff.
I asked her a question or to about it and things. She asked weather i was comfortable on subway system or bus system and things.
I never been on the subway system in toronto before.

Post 74 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 23:10:30

Well, that's a first step and a good one. Way to go! I mean this sincerely and wish you the best.

Post 75 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 23:16:48

Glad to hear it. Even if you just make the tiniest step, it's progress. The more you do, the easier it will become, since you'll have a few successes under your belt. The more you do, the more motovation you will have, so keep up the good work.

Post 76 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Thursday, 10-Jun-2010 23:37:52

Right, and at the end of the day you can feel glad inside because you've taken that step. In the future, I do humbly suggest that you not treat us like rubbish when we are trying to help. I am glad you are gonna try the subway! Didn't know Canada had one.
I am sort of torn because on one hand I am happy for you but on the other hand this rant is probably screeching to a hault. Nothing more to rant about...guess that's a good rant in itself. :)

Post 77 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Friday, 11-Jun-2010 0:26:51

oh, don't worry. I'm sure there'll be more. One thing I'm extremely thankful for is that I'm pretty much mentally stable.

Post 78 by rollercoasterfan (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 11-Jun-2010 9:17:00

i did not say i was actually going to do a sub way as such at all.
I have not had much o and am in a long time actually.
I am not the greatest with crossing streets.

Post 79 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 11-Jun-2010 9:50:46

I should like to take a moment to chime in with
Tiffanitsa, devilish Anthony and margorp

Good to hear you are on the Road of Becoming
a more productive person and yes it is taken
One Step At A Time
Step after step after step
Moment by moment, step by step...


a quote from Lord of The Rings
{A favorite book of mine}:

The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.

Post 80 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Friday, 11-Jun-2010 10:41:09

Ah yes, Lord of the Rings. I'm in the process of rereading those again for the umteen-billionth time. Those books never get old LOL.

Post 81 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Friday, 11-Jun-2010 11:10:45

RCF, congratulations. I'm sure there will be times it won't be easy. I'm sure everyone has gone through those at some point or another, but if you stick with it, and challenge yourself, you'll be rewarded in the end. You're going to have to step outside your comfort zone more than once, but it's the only way to expand it.

Post 82 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Friday, 11-Jun-2010 11:16:32

I love Lord of the Rings too, especially the BBC audio dramadisation. And agreed with OceanDream. It'll seem scary at first, but most new things are that way. Once you get used to it it won't seem like anything.

Post 83 by Sadie (Account disabled) on Friday, 11-Jun-2010 17:47:42

Congratulations Rcf!

Post 84 by someone else (Zone BBS Addict) on Friday, 11-Jun-2010 23:35:49

Lol Chelsea. You're right! :-)

Post 85 by Sadie (Account disabled) on Saturday, 12-Jun-2010 1:30:17

Yeah, and no more shoving your beliefs down people's throats.

Post 86 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Saturday, 12-Jun-2010 10:31:41

Michael, if you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. no one tells Christians to lighten up...well, not to their faces, so I don't appreciate you doing so cause I'm an atheist.

Post 87 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Saturday, 12-Jun-2010 12:52:16

Being an Atheist had nothing to do with this. Neither did being a Christian. What I said was that this guy is starting to take a step forward, so you need to give him his space. It doesn't matter whether you're atheist, buddhist, hinduist, or whatever. You're just fighting back because you don't like the guy.

Post 88 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Saturday, 12-Jun-2010 13:25:05

And just to clarify, when I said this:
"As for RCF, you say you believe in God and all these things,
and yet you still call peopl total morons and then apologize for that afterword."
I was not talking to you at that time, fighter. I was talking to rcf himself. So the same goes for you: If you don't like what I say, then don't read it either.

Post 89 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Saturday, 12-Jun-2010 14:33:11

I don't have a problem with what you say, but it isn't right of you to put words in my mouth.
anyway, I'm done...

Post 90 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Saturday, 12-Jun-2010 15:38:00

Ok, now I'm totally confused.

Post 91 by Jeromea (Kahee!) on Saturday, 12-Jun-2010 20:55:56

All I have to say is this needs to be in 'religion' not 'rant' and I am christian, but I will not push my religion in one's face.

Post 92 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Saturday, 12-Jun-2010 21:14:11

Kahee, it is now in the religion topics. And I will say the same thing: I'm a Christian and I've never crammed my religion down people's throats and don't plan to. And I don't care if you're a Buddhist, Shintoist, Hinduist, or any of the rest of them. If you can't respect anyone for who they are, it's best that you leave these board topics alone. And of course, fighter, you don't fall into that category. So respect everyone for who they are and don't cram it down their throats or you'll get something back. Not everyone is going to get saved and become a Christian like we are, and if they want to, it's their choice. I do like to encourage people to become Christians, but I will never try to force people to do that. This is a free country.

Post 93 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Sunday, 13-Jun-2010 12:06:14

just stating my opinion.

Post 94 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Sunday, 13-Jun-2010 12:26:08

I take it, fighter, that you thought I was just talking to you, but I wasn't. lol I was pretty much telling that to everybody, especially rcf. Ok, I'm done now. lol Sorry if I'm confusing people here.